Win a Free Copy of ‘Vertigo’ by John Crace

Hello, good morning and welcome. The spectre of derby day looms. Wafting about the dinner table like Banquo’s ghost. And what better way to mark the occasion than with a talk with Spurs fan, Guardian columnist and author of the fantastic Vertigo: One Fan’s Fear of Success. John Crace. And if that wasn’t enough, well, then, you’re just plain greedy.

No, that’s not enough, you say? Oh go on then, we’ll chuck in a free copy of the book at the end…

WFRF: Morning, John. Awfully decent of you to talk with us today. For those poor impoverished souls who haven’t got their mitts on a copy of your excellent book yet- and frankly those people need to have good long think about their recent life choices- what’s it all about and what’s the story behind you writing it?

JC: Apart from getting a year’s tax-deductible football? There were a few main things I wanted to look at. The first was ‘Why do I spend so much time and money on something that causes me so much pain?’ The second was that I wanted to write a book that didn’t treat football as something that happened in its own ‘sports bubble’ which is how so many people write about it. I wanted to treat it as something that was as much part of my life as my family and work and involved the same complex negotiations and heartache. I also wanted to write about what it means to be a fan and how that changes over a lifetime. Above all, though, I wanted to write something funny. There have been other books about fandom but none really managed to capture the sheer black comedy of knowing almost every season is abound to end in disappointment.

WFRF: You speak in the book about a Chelsea supporting friend of yours who’s become somewhat disillusioned with his club turning into a ‘corporate machine bankrolled by a Russian oligarch’, and, as such, rather misses the bad old days of losing at home QPR in front of 25,000 people on a rubbish pitch. How would you feel now if Spurs were to be taken over by some Johnny Cashbucket who pumped all his delicious money into the club and suddenly we’re winning everything? Would you feel we’d done it the ‘wrong’ way or would you just be quietly grateful Spurs were getting their hands on some pots again?

JC: Tricky! I like to think I’m a purist and that I prefer the struggle to the success. That psychologically I’m more comfortable with hoping for great triumphs and being rewarded with many fewer. And I do worry about us losing our identity: hence The Vertigo of the title. The book is also as much about my anxiety about what might be lost if we became Champions League regulars as about what would be gained. I certainly couldn’t stomach the idea of moving to the Olympic stadium… And yet, if push came to shove and we did move, I can’t see myself giving up my season ticket. And if Mr Levy did suddenly open his pockets and Aguero and the like came tumbling out, I rather feel I might get used to it quite quickly. After all, Man United fans seem to have managed the transition quite easily. And my Chelsea mate was very drunk when he said he’s become disillusioned…

WFRF: Much of the story in Vertigo focuses on Spurs’ maiden voyage in the Champions League- most notably your visit to the San Siro for the first leg of the Milan tie. How did it feel to be a part of that? As well your own personal anxieties about making the trip, which you talk about, did you find it somewhat surreal to be watching little old Tottenham going toe-to-toe with the likes of Ibrahimovic and Pato? From the comfort of my second-hand sofa, as well the immense delight of seeing Spurs finally mix it with heavy-weights on the continent, a big part of me was thinking: this doesn’t feel right.

JC: It was a wonderful experience – not just because we exceeded expectations – but because there was the sense it might never be repeated again in my lifetime. I hope I’m wrong, mind you… To go to the San Siro twice and the Bernabeu once in the same season, is something I will never forget. Though oddly, not so much for the games themselves – I’ve been trying to erase the memory of the defeat to Real Madrid for six months now – but for the pleasure of getting there and being there and sharing the experience with other old Spurs mates who like me had waited the best part of 40 years to see the club in action against the best teams in Europe. And yes I did find myself doing a double-take at times especially when we took Inter Milan apart at home. I certainly didn’t have a clue Spurs could play that well and I suspect the team didn’t either.

WFRF: You mention Jimmy Greaves as the player who first attracted you to Tottenham. I’m a bit too soggy behind the ears to remember such things, but just how good was he? Like Jermain Defoe, I’ve watched plenty of videos of him twonking them in from all angles, but was there more to his game than simply being a great finisher?

JC: I was only 14 when Greaves stopped playing for Spurs, so I’d be making it up if I gave you chapter and verse on his technical skills. Given how much he drank and smoked, I’d reckon he might struggle in the Premiership, though. All I know is that to me he was a footballing king. A player whose name appeared on the score sheet every week – the closest I got to White Hart Lane until I was 16 was a newspaper as my parents lived out in the sticks – and whose brylcreemed hair was dead cool. Possibly I might revise that last opinion now…

WFRF:Early days, but how have you enjoyed this season so far? Are you of the opinion that while we made mere ripples in the summer window compared to some, the players brought in have been significant upgrades and there appears to be a nice balance about the team? That chap who used to play for Arsenal certainly looks a bit tasty.

JC: It started in misery. A long trip to Old Trafford to be turned over even without the usual help of the referee. Then a home thrashing to City where we barely got a sniff. And half the team looked unfit and the other half wanted to leave. And it looked much the same for the first 60 minutes against Wolves where the only reason the game was goalless was because the home team was as clueless as us. The up popped Adebayor and all was well. Somehow you just know that if that chance had fallen to Crouchie, he would have tripped over his own feet. After Wolves we were away. Against Liverpool we were sensational and despite dozing off in the second half against Wigan we still got three points. Parker looks a top buy at £5m – we haven’t had someone who hunts down the ball in midfield for ages – Defoe is a lot sharper, Bale’s back on the pace and dear old Ledley has played three games on the bounce. Happy days.

WFRF: Arsenal this Sunday, then. Where will you be watching it and how do you see it going? A lot of people I’ve spoken to feel slightly unnerved by the fact that we’re going in as favourites.

JC: I wouldn’t miss it for the world. How nice it would be to have another game like the one against Liverpool where I can actually relax and enjoy the game for the final 30 minutes rather than praying for the final whistle. And yes, starting the game for the first time in decades as favourites is costing me sleep.

WFRF: Finally, just exactly how cool is Beniot Assou-Ekotto?

JC: He didn’t look quite so cool when he gifted Wigan a goal on Saturday. But yes, he is still undeniably the coolest player in the Premiership. My mate Bob and I used to take bets with one another about how he would play based on what hairstyle he had chosen for any game. But it’s changed so often we’ve given up trying to guess. And there isn’t a finer one-legged left back in the Premiership.

‘Vertigo: One Fan’s Fear of Success by John Crace is published by Constable & Robinson at £12.99. But you’re much better off buying it from Amazon for £6.99.’ (Not my words)

To win a copy. Just send the correct answer to the following question to: whoframedruelfox@hotmail.co.uk:

Which team played Spurs in the first ever game to be played at White Hart Lane?

Rightio, saucepots. I’m off to the other side of the world for a fortnight. Chocks away and good luck!



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86 Responses to Win a Free Copy of ‘Vertigo’ by John Crace

  1. avatar KayBee says:

    Completely unrelated note, but if any of you lads are, like me, living in the Herts/N London, and, unlike me, want to buy the latest FIFA football game, our very own Scotty Parker is at the Cheshunt Tesco (Brookefield Park), signing copies from 2:30 to 4:30 today.

    I had to drive my brother up there at midnight last night so he could get his copy – he’s gutted now haha!

  2. avatar Longwell says:

    “Somehow you just know that if that chance had fallen to Crouchie, he would have tripped over his own feet.”

    He’s dead wrong about this, you know. Crouch would have tripped over his own elbows.

  3. avatar ruetheday says:

    *Envies Foxie’s jollies off to the mystical East*

    *Envies Foxie’s interview chinwag with Mr Crace*

    *Envies KayBee’s ITK status and Longwell’s wit*

    *Envies anyone who happens to be eating anything*

    *Breaks out of fug of green envy for a second*

    I notice the Guardian has us lining up in a 4231, with the Goons in a 451. I’m not sure there’ll be much difference on the day, but I think it’s significant that whatever journo/temp put that graphic together thinks we’ll be the only team trying to score.

    *Envies anyone who happens to be out having fun, when I want to be out having fun, but I’m waiting to have some food to become properly edible before eating it, before going out*

    • avatar KayBee says:

      Fab post, as ever, Mr Rue.

      I’m a little weirded out by the complete lack of posts on here regarding such an important game as as the one today. I’ve obsessing over it for days now!

      • avatar seattlespursguy says:

        I have too, but nerves are a bit high. This game is always big, but there is a bit more riding on it this time. We’ve talked for year of closing the gap on those turds, and that has been true on a given match day the last few years, but they always finish above us, and in the CL places.

        This year we have the very real chance of beating them on the day and over the long haul of the season, of chucking them out of the CL spots, of enforcing a true North London power shift. And it’s in lads’ hands to do it. We are better than them now. The scum should be beaten by two clear goals.

        But will we? Will we take care of business? This is where the doubt creeps in. Will we grasp the chance and slip in the dagger, or revert to nearly men of years past?

        There has been much less online taunting and crowing this year; all blogs seem toned down. Just my take, but I think it’s been very quiet for this NLD because we are a hair away from the goal of truly being the better team. But will we do it? Nerves creating a tip-toe effect. Don’t rock the boat or instill bad Karma.

        Oh, fuck; let’s beat those lady boys.

        • avatar ruetheday says:

          I was hiding in a corner, reluctant to do my usual “it’s all gonna go horribly wrong” glass-half-melting-in-a-puddle-of-radioactive-goo speech, on account of secretly thinking we’d stuff them, and knowing full well that in that situation, whatever I posted could in hindsight be construed as tempting fate, had we not won.

  4. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    Tottenham: Friedel; Walker, Kaboul, King, Assou-Ekotto; Van der Vaart, Parker, Modric, Bale; Adebayor, Defoe.

    Subs: Cudicini, Bassong, Corluka, Livermore, Sandro, Giovani, Pavlyuchenko

  5. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    Forget my earlier comments. This was always in the bag 😉

  6. avatar Longwell says:

    Happy with the result, but the performance was thoroughly mediocre. That was as tame a NLD as I can remember; neither team really looked up for it. Might’ve been more sprightly if Tottenham’s strikers hadn’t been kicking back in lawn chairs on the wrong side of the offside trap the entire time. Lordy. Parker, Walker, Coquelain, and Song were the only guys at the races today. Oh, and Sandro when he came on. That boy is quality. We looked 1,000% better with him mixing it up in the center.

    • avatar Aran says:

      Winning when you play poorly = the mark of a great team.

    • avatar KayBee says:

      Both teams were pretty poor on the day, alas.

      Still, as seems to be becoming my catchphrase at the moment; three points is three points™. 😀

      Arsenal really do look shocking at the moment, and it’s telling that instead of rolling over teams as they did in the past, they are now reduced to whining about (borderline at best) handballs, and people not getting sent off for celebrating a goal.

      Nice to see Wenger reverting to petulant type as well, not shaking Clive Allen’s hand, and then bitching about how nothing went their way. No wonder Wilshire is such a bitchy little **** with him as a father figure. 😉

  7. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    We are way too unbalanced with VDV on the right. He needs to play off Ade or not at all. If we’re 4-4-2 Harry needs to show some balls and play the right personnel.

    • avatar Longwell says:

      Agreed. The problem for me is that Rafa and Bale are too hard to shoehorn into the same 4-4-2 if we play two proper strikers. The solution, as you said, is either 4-4-1-1 with Rafa playing off the striker…OR…*drumroll*…4-3-1-2 with Bale playing as a forward.

      Walker–Kaboul–King–A&E
      Parker–Modric–Sandro
      van der Vaart
      Adebayor–Bale

      Which I actually kinda like.

  8. avatar cc says:

    Good win yesterday and I thought we would pick that line up and win too.
    We were professional as I hoped and didn’t shoot ourselves in the foot or get caught up in the occasion.
    Before the game I thought Rafa/Walker on the right could be a headache defensively because Rafa wanders and Walker attacks but we had little option given the fitness of Lennon/Niko.
    Seeing them on the pitch I thought VDV left Walker very exposed at times but the RB coped very well with the situation overall. But you cannot do that and expect to get away with it too often or you will be punished as wee were when VDV did not cover the cross for their goal. Now Lennon is almost fit and Niko on his way back I think we will be trying them on the right next.
    Rafa got the goal and will be vital for us in games this season especially if any of Ade/Defoe/Modric are injured because then we need that wild card doing his stuff. He really needs to get his fitness back though.
    I think we may see a split with 442 home and 451 away.
    Anyway, we beat the goons, the new signings look awesome, working well as a team with good spirit, 12 points out of 12, no reason to fear anyone with the current line up, add Drogba and someone to take our free kicks to our current side and we would be in the title race.

    • avatar Aran says:

      Agreed, a good show all in all. Walker looks class.

      Just a note on Wenger, does anyone remember a time when he wasn’t such a sore looser? So lacking in grace. Never once have I heard him give any credit to an opposing team. It’s amazing how a team has never played better than Arsenal and yet the still seem to lose! He must be the most unlucky manager in the world because, according to him, Arsenal play well enough to win in every game!

      • avatar cc says:

        Yeah he has always been a sore loser even back in his glory years. It wasn’t evident much because they were so successful but now we see it much more often. SAF is a sore loser too although not quite up there with Wenger who is looking a little desperate.

        He is a great football manager but he seems incapable of seeing what is in front of his face. Not only incidents in the game but also simple facts.
        Like possession is a means not an end. He does not seem to have worked that out yet.
        For yesterday we decided that they would often have the ball and rather than try to stop that we stopped them hurting us with it. We succeeded too as other teams have.
        But he carries on like he the penny has not dropped yet and does not know that possession is not the goal. Goals and points are the goal. If possession helps you get them then great. If not then its real value drops like a stone.
        Sore loser and not even seeing straight now. Right now Harry is much better.

      • avatar KayBee says:

        God he (Wenger) amuses me, with his face like a half-buttered bollock/with his face like a Turkish fiddling cup/with his face like an explosion at a sh*t farm/with his face like a fudge magnet. (guess who’s been watching Shooting Stars lately?)

        He has to be hands down the least gracious man in football – even Fergie gives credit to teams who beat United, you’d never get that myopic French so-and-so doing likewise.

        And whenever something contentious happens in Arsenal’s favour? He never sees it!

  9. avatar KayBee says:

    Nice American written piece about how the NLD is becoming THE must-see derby in World football.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/tottenham-are-new-kings-of-north-london-defeats-arsenal-100311-?

    (I think Barca/Real might object to that notion, as might Rangers and the plastic paddies in Scotchland (but your derby doesn’t count as a true footballing rivalry, steeped, as it is, in sectarian crap. Spurs and Arsenal hate each other for pure footballing reasons, and religion doesn’t come into it).)

  10. avatar KayBee says:

    I see Ancelotti is putting himself forward for the Spurs job.

    http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/87181/default.aspx?

    Now there’s a manager I wouldn’t mind taking over from Redknapp when he goes. 🙂

  11. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    There are so many ways we can play with our available players:

    4-2-3-1
    Brad
    Walker, Bull, King, BAE
    Parker, Sandro
    Luka, VDV, Bale
    Ade

    4-4-2 w/wingers
    Brad
    Charlie, Bull, King, BAE
    Lennon, Parker, Luka, Bale
    Defoe, Ade

    4-3-3
    Brad
    Walker, Bull, King, BAE
    Parker, Luka, Sandro
    VDV, Ade, Bale

    All workable, all appropriate in given situations. Harry just needs to stop shoehorning Defoe and VDV into the same 11. I’m no Harry basher, but he needs to play the right people in the right positions, keeping the opposition in mind. This is his chief failing imo, and it’s surprising given how the 1st thing he did when he arrived at Spurs was put players into their proper positions.

    • avatar Aran says:

      You have to consider that, with Niko and Lennon injured the right side is a bit of a problem right now. Luka out there means no Luka in the middle and that could be a big loss to the side.

      Frankly at the moment I see Parker and Sandro in the middle as a very strong pairing. I’ve always liked to see a solid midfield duo especially when you have attacking fallbacks like Walker about the shop. You can let your fallbacks bomb forward at will and know you have two solid defensive mids to cover the centre backs if the opposition breaks on you. It’s enough to make me wish Bale still played left back because then we’d have two proper wing backs. You never see wing backs anymore.

      A 3-2-3-1-1, for example, with Bale and Walker as attacking wing backs, King, Dawson and Bull as a three man defence with Sandro, Parker and Modric as the midfield three behind VDV and Ade. That team has it all and more. And we really do have the players for that formation now.

      • avatar ruetheday says:

        I love that 32311.

        Parker and Sandro makes a lot of sense. On the downside, Parker really puts me in mind of David Howells – which is probably actually no bad thing, to be fair – mainly because of this season’s longer shorts and his physique… but still it causes me to worry that Arry’s going to do an Ossie and play a back four plus Parker behind a five man attack… Which is kinda what happened at the weekend. And we kinda got away with it. But I’d much prefer the 32311 idea.

        • avatar seattlespursguy says:

          Sure guys, that works too, and all these formations aren’t always “right” but can be right in a given situation. But I think Harry is trying to keep VDV and Defoe happy and I don’t think we are as effective when they are both in with Ade.

    • avatar cc says:

      I don’t see any shoehorning players in myself.
      Before the game I thought we should pick that exact line up because I thought it was the best for the job and plenty of others picked it too.
      VDV was the only choice for RM and 442 looked the best approach for Arsenal at home and we won.

      I suppose it is a sign of the dramatic improvement of our team that we can debate selections at all because so many positions were nailed on with players who would not even get on the bench now.
      When Harry arrived our first choice CM pairing was Jenas + Zokora. That seems like a world away now 🙂

  12. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    I haven’t been bigging up the Seattle Sounders too much lately, but hey; 2nd place in the league and due to make the play-offs, out of the group stage in the region’s Champion’s League, and tonight, going for their 3rd US Cup in a row. Heady times in Seattle.

  13. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    In the DNA 🙂

  14. avatar KayBee says:

    I hate international breaks. 🙁

    • avatar seattlespursguy says:

      Me too, and it is really a shame Internationals are so de-valued. When I was a kid and just concerned with US football, it was a chance to see teams from the better footballing countries. Now, with the money in the game and the rise of club football, I see it as a chance for Bale or Luka to get broken in pointless games.

  15. avatar cc says:

    Bored with the international break (pah!) already so looking ahead and thinking Harry will start 451 for the away game in Newcastle then revert back to 442 at home to Blackburn.

    Newcastle (A):
    Friedel
    Walker Kaboul King BAE
    Lennon Parker Modric Sandro Bale
    Adebayor

    Sandro/Parker will have to work on a partnership – seemed promising when he came on at the weekend, better than at Wigan anyway. Walker/Lennon will also need to figure out who does what as some of their strengths overlap. A major advantage is that Modric should get plenty of freedom in the centre of the park which he can use well. Newcastle are going well and we will be under pressure at times but that line up should be enough to get another win. Crossed fingers none of ours get crocked on international duty.

    • avatar cc says:

      Next best option I can think of is a 442 if especially Lennon is not fit. Takes Luka from his best position which is dubious however aside from that it is both strong and attacking. Also during the game the ‘wingers’ can swap flanks at times to totally bamboozle Newcastle’s defence:

      Friedel
      Walker Kaboul King BAE
      Modric Sandro Parker Bale
      Defoe Adebayor

        • avatar cc says:

          I think Defoe is the better prospect at hanging on to Ade’s coat tails but if Rafa is 100% fit and raring to go he is a better player than Defoe and has more to his game.
          At Newcastle we might have to do without Ade. So then the choices are different. The three main ones if VDV is fit I think are:
          1) Play both VDV and Defoe as strikers in a 4-4-2
          2) Play either as the ‘lone striker’ with probably Lennon as RM
          3) Play Rafa RM and Defoe up top

          They could do 1, never going to have much physical presence but they are good enough to make trouble for any defence if they play as a pair and complimented each other but I can’t remember seeing them do that for us so maybe they can’t do it.
          Neither is really suited to 2, I’d expect as Defoe is fitter to chase down lost causes, but keeping their back 4 occupied alone is hard work when you are not built for it.
          3 could be good, with Modric/Sandro/Parker in the middle. Does Rafa want to play RM, maybe not, is there a way to square that circle, I dunno 🙂

          I still think we will win up there because we are flying. But I hope we don’t have to do without Adebayor too often in the league this season.

  16. avatar KayBee says:

    I was reading on *ahem* mumblemumbleanothersitemumble that we are currently 5 points better off than last season.

    This has been worked out thusly:

    = Loss to Utd (same as last year, 0)
    = Loss to City (draw last year, -1)
    = Win at Wolves (draw last year, +2)
    = Win over Liverpool (same as last year, 0)
    = Win at Wigan (draw last year, +2)
    = Win over Arsenal (draw last year, +2)

    I know we’re only six games in, but to be 5pts better off only six games in is a promising start despite our, erm, none too promising start against City and United, and makes me feel very happy. 🙂

  17. avatar Aran says:

    Hey, Fox! Where’s the NLD writeup eh?! We won you know. If we’d lost I could understand the reluctance but we won!

    Having played a fair bit of Starfox 64 back in the day I can’t help getting flashbacks to it every time I refer to our titular blogger. It freaks me out a bit.

  18. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    So the OS is back in play, except not really, because the Mayor says it will surely be rented by the Spammers? Seems all this does is keep Levy from airing the dirty linen of the Spammer deal in public.

    Good to move on from this, though. Assuming Boris follows through with funding for the public part of the NDP.

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  20. avatar cc says:

    Bugger, the one player we got no cover for, the one position of lone striker we got no cover for, and we get reports of injury already, hope we got a deal with the FA to postpone any game that Adebayor is not fit, if so we are sorted.
    ———————————————————————————————————

    By Daily Express reporter
    EMMANUEL ADEBAYOR is battling to be fit for Tottenham’s trip to Newcastle on Sunday.
    Striker Adebayor suffered a hamstring strain in Spurs’ victory over Arsenal and is only rated at 50-50 to recover in time for the journey to St James’ Park.
    He has scored three goals in four games since joining on a season-long loan from Manchester City.

    • avatar seattlespursguy says:

      So, maybe time for a 4-3-3

      Brad
      Kyle, Bull, King, BAE
      Sandro, Luka, Parker
      VDV, Defoe, Bale

      • avatar cc says:

        So maybe time for us to cancel any idea of challenging the top 4 if it is a long term injury.
        But if it is a one gamer we might be able to put some team together to paper over the cracks.
        Agree with your line up except you got to pick one of VDV/JD for the middle imo and play a proper RM and Lennon is probably the only fit one we have at present.

        • avatar Aran says:

          Since when did we become a one man team? Let’s not panic, eh?

          • avatar cc says:

            We are not a one man team of course and no panic here just looking at a few simple facts. Take out Ade and we have no additions to the strike force of last year. A good guide to how anyone will perform one year is to see how they performed the previous year. How did the strikers perform last year?

          • avatar Aran says:

            Apply that same thinking to last season. How did Defoe perform in the 2008-2009 season?

            See, it’s not that simple. The team is stronger in several areas, not least midfield and in goal. If we miss Ade for a few weeks that’s a bad thing but we managed to qualify for the CL without him and we managed to finish fifth while competing in that competition without him.

            This year we have no CL and a stronger squad than the year when we qualified for it. Arsenal are weaker and Chelsea appear to have stood still for the most part.

          • avatar cc says:

            Defoe’s league goalscoring in the previous season was nothing special. Good first half followed by a poor second half of the season which was followed by a poor season last year. Some blame VDV but it is clear to me that the strikers were the weak link before he arrived and last season we finished fifth in spite of the strikers not because of them.

            We have strengthened elsewhere of course and we will win games EPL games without Ade and lose games with him because that is football. But over the whole season he is one player whose absence will weaken us the most.

            Currently we average 3 points per game when he starts and 0 points per game when he don’t. Stats from so few games mean little but at the end of the season I doubt those numbers will be close to even let alone tilted the other way.

            Jimmy Greaves wrote the other day “But Emmanuel Adebayor will be the player who makes or breaks Tottenham’s bid to finish in the top four this season”. Some people have kittens when they read a judgment like that but as one line predictions of a season go I agree with him.

          • avatar Aran says:

            I don’t know. I think losing Modric would have a greater impact.

            Point is that he is one player in a squad of excellent players. Since the new signings started with us most would argue that Parker has had the greatest impact. But it’s a team game. So while I agree he would be a great loss to us I don’t agree that we couldn’t make the top four without him. We did it without him before after all.

          • avatar KayBee says:

            I suppose it’s too early to be seeing any of Coulibaly turn out for the first team?

  21. avatar KayBee says:

    Not a lot of people know this, right…

    If we beat Newcastle on Saturday, we’ll equal our best ever record of back to back wins in the Prem.

  22. avatar who framed ruel fox? says:

    Bitch’s back… I’ll be stirring into something like action in the next day or two.

  23. avatar seattlespursguy says:

    So, after a look at the blog-o-verse, it seems an away draw to an in form Toon side means Harry is a clueless t#at and every player is utterly useless. I don’t know why some people follow football, what with all the pain it gives them.

  24. avatar Longwell says:

    Whoever had October 16th in the Ledley Injury Pool, congratulations.

  25. avatar KayBee says:

    Good news, fellow yids:

    Spurs receive Ledley King injury boost
    Tom Collomosse
    18 Oct 2011

    Ledley King could be back in action for Tottenham sooner than expected after tests on the groin injury he sustained at Newcastle on Sunday revealed the problem was not as bad as the club had first feared.

    King, who missed six months of last season because of a groin problem, was forced off after half an hour of the 2-2 draw at St James’ Park and manager Harry Redknapp initially appeared pessimistic about his club captain’s prospects.

    Yet King had a scan on the problem yesterday afternoon and it is understood the centre-back has suffered only a Grade One tear to the adductor muscle. If King is able to recover without suffering any further setbacks, he could be available to Redknapp again for the home game against Aston Villa on November 21, which follows the international break, or even for the derby at Fulham on November 6.

    King’s career has been blighted by a chronic knee problem that prevents him from training regularly.

    The 31-year-old is in the final year of his contract at White Hart Lane and Redknapp had set him the challenge of playing 20 matches in order to earn a new one. Before the Newcastle game, King had played four consecutive Premier League matches, helping his team to victory in every one.

    Source: http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/526648115?-11179

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